

Nationally acclaimed family law attorney, mediator and award-winning podcaster, Susan Guthrie is the voice you can trust on your divorce journey. After guiding countless numbers of people through the perilous world of divorce for almost 35 years, and speaking to a podcast audience of over 5 million listeners, Susan brings you the top-rated The Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of the more than 3.5 million podcasts in the world, to help you successfully navigate the choppy waters of the divorce process so you can sail into your beautiful BEYOND.
Nationally acclaimed family law attorney, mediator and award-winning podcaster, Susan Guthrie is the voice you can trust on your divorce journey. After guiding countless numbers of people through the perilous world of divorce for almost 35 years, and speaking to a podcast audience of over 5 million listeners, Susan brings you the top-rated The Divorce & Beyond® Podcast, ranked in the top 1% of the more than 3.5 million podcasts in the world, to help you successfully navigate the choppy waters of the divorce process so you can sail into your beautiful BEYOND.
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Betrayal is one of the deepest wounds divorce can carry. As part of her summer series on rebuilding after divorce, Susan Guthrie, family law attorney and mediator, turns her attention to healing itself, sitting down with Dr. Debi Silber, founder of the PBT (Post-Betrayal Transformation) Institute.
Whether it's a loved one, a friend, a colleague, or someone entirely unexpected, betrayal reaches into nearly every part of life and can be hard to move beyond, sometimes for years. Dr. Silber has spent her career studying exactly that, building a program that guides people through the five stages of betrayal toward a new foundation and a new worldview. Together, she and Susan unpack why betrayal cuts so deep, walking through those stages and the reasons so many people stay stuck in the process without realizing it.
As Dr. Silber puts it, "the best revenge is a life well lived." Wherever someone is in their own healing, this conversation offers a clear next step toward it.
What You'll Learn
- Why betrayal is uniquely devastating, striking at the sense of self in ways other traumas don't
- Why Dr. Silber says that even though betrayal happened to you, it was never really about you
- The five stages of betrayal and healing, and how to recognize which one you're in
- The three reasons people get stuck and never fully heal from betrayal
- Why staying stuck in betrayal can function like an addiction, and what it takes to break the cycle
Episode 7 of 8 in the Divorce & Beyond Summer Essentials Series. This summer, Divorce & Beyond brings back 8 the episodes listeners reach for most, the conversations with the clearest, most practical guidance for anyone thinking about, going through, or rebuilding after divorce. New Essentials air every other Monday all summer. Follow the show so you never miss one.
About this week's special guest: Dr. Debi Sibler
Dr. Debi Silber, Founder and CEO of The PBT (Post Betrayal Transformation) Institute and National Forgiveness Day, is an award-winning speaker and 2-time #1 International bestselling author. Her podcast, From Betrayal to Breakthrough, ranks in the top 1.5% globally. Her groundbreaking PhD study revealed 3 discoveries that completely revolutionized our understanding of betrayal-and how to achieve full healing physically, mentally, and emotionally. Creator of the world's #1 betrayal recovery certification for life, business, health, and leadership coaches, Dr. Debi equips practitioners globally with her evidence-based framework so they can deliver exponentially better results with their existing clients. Featured on FOX, CBS, The Dr. Oz Show, and TEDx (twice), she equips practitioners with the missing framework-helping them move from uncertainty to confidence, from using general tools that keep clients stuck to specialized approaches that create genuine transformation.
Find More Information on Dr. Silber:
Website: http://thepbtinstitute.com
Book: Unstuck: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation
You can view Dr. Debi's latest TEDx Talk, "Do You Have Post-Betrayal Syndrome?" HERE!
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About the Host: Susan Guthrie, Esq. Susan Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping people navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is a Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.
Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Town & Country, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.
As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with more than 1.3 million downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together leading legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.
Learn more at divorceandbeyondpod.com/about.
Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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